Thus far Buffy Normal Again #35 and Angel Spin the Bottle #33

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/gofuton....ant&id=20030107

#20 to #1 still remain unknown

Once More With Feeling aired in 2001 right? Guess that won't make it in.

It made it in last years, #3..The Body was #1....this year i don't think Buffy will have anything in the top 20..

Yeah, I think Normal Again was their best shot.

you don't think CWDP will be in there.

ohhhh I hadn't even thought of that. I was just considering season 6. In that case... very likely then.

"Conversations with Dead People" is #42.

Still, the guy appears to be a Buffy nut so there'll probably be at least one more Buffy/Angel episode in the top 20. I'd vote for Angel's "Tomorrow". I loved the build-up towars the happy ending just to painfully rip it away.

42??? It got BELOW Normal Again? Whoa... weirdness.

yeah, i think CwDP should be a bit higher than normal again, personally.

spin the bottle..higher than both of them? don't know if i like that, though i don't exactly completely disagree coz that was a joss ep. all joss eps have to make it in these lists.

i guess AtS will probably have more eps on their list this year...rightfully so.

Spin The Bottle!? I'm sorry, but that was the worst Joss written episode for either AtS or BtVS. There are many others which should have made the list...
But I'm glad to see "Normal Again" up there.

I'd vote 'OMWF', 'Billy', 'A New World' and 'Passion' as some of the best episodes. They need recognition!

Seconded

I hated Tomorrow. Everything ended too negatively, everyone was off doing their own thing and there was no comparison to 'Grave' IMO

Thanks for the link.
The body is #1 and the coment about SMG acting is amazing.

Thanks for posting that! I think "Once More With Feeling" should have made it. That episode was brilliant.

Two more episodes on today's lists. Hopefully we'll see at least one more in the top 10:


15. buffy the vampire slayer - "life serial"
(originally aired october 23, 2001)

While you'll find some of "Buffy's" more dramatic episodes at the top of this list, that doesn't mean we don't love the comedy ones and this one about a "geek" Troika fooling with Buffy took the cake. And if you have any doubts that this isn't one of the best episodes of 2001, two words my friends: kitten poker.


14. angel - "that vision thing"
(originally aired october 1, 2001)

The evolution of Cordelia has been one of the best things about this show as of late and this episode put out all the stops. Originally a Girl Friday to Angel, it's here we really see how far the character has come in the five years we've known her. And let's not forget the best character introduction all season - Skip.

I think those may well be from last year's list...

Yeah but both OMWF and Passion didn't air in 2002!

I believe you're right...I noticed the links to all of last year's results at the bottom of the page. And last time I checked they hadn't posted today's 10.

Edited to add...I spoke too soon. Right after I posted I checked the site and they had #30-21. There were no Buffy or Angel eps but there was a Firefly one - 'Ariel' came in at #23.

Well does anyone think there's a chance for another Buffy episode to make it higher up? CWDP and Normal Again are already placed... were there any better episodes?

I wonder if Grave will make it at all.

Personally I'd have a few eps above CwDP, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was it for this year on the futoncritic list. There are definitely a couple from the end of S6 which I think are in with a shout as well as almost all of S7...lol. This season has been consistently brilliant (IMO) rather than having one or two eps like The Body and OMWF which because of their unusual nature got a lot of attention...

Hmmm what about Selfless? I don't think it was better than CWDP but it might stand a chance. Oh wait... Seeing Red? There's a few good ones left I think.

Ooh..."Dead Things" might be there. Such a fantastic ep.

So yeah, there are definitely a few in with a shot.

I agree that it was good, but I don't know if it was "THAT" good for the critics.

Well in that case, the critics are insane...

Still the best ep ever IMO.

Ah so you're the person that says it was the best ever... or is there more than one person that thinks that? Oh god, I sound like a downright... butthole.... that was unintentional, I assure you

And besides, critics have nothing better to do than sit down and watch every tv show in existance. lol

The thing is...even though these are coming from critics, it's all still one person's opinion. So while it's nice to see Buffy get some recognition on this list, if there aren't anymore eps on it that's cool with me...I know it's the best show ever without the critics

I'm not completely alone...lol. There aren't many of us, but we're not too disappointed given our confidence that we're right and the rest of the world is wrong...

["The Gift" is still my 'favourite' ep though]

It's in my top 5,certainly.....Still one of my favs of all time

Atta girl!

Is this list made up of ONE critic? Or is there a bunch of them involved?

[quote=Nika,Jan 9 2003, 11:55 AM][quote=Leigh,Jan 9 2003, 11:53 AM] [QUOTE=Nika,Jan

Still the best ep ever IMO. [/quote]
Ah so you're the person that says it was the best ever... or is there more than one person that thinks that?

Yes there is. The "Door scene" one of the best ever.[/quote]

[quote=Premiere,Jan 9 2003, 12:02 PM] [quote=Nika,Jan 9 2003, 11:55 AM][quote=Leigh,Jan 9 2003, 11:53 AM] [QUOTE=Nika,Jan

Still the best ep ever IMO. [/quote]
Ah so you're the person that says it was the best ever... or is there more than one person that thinks that?

Yes there is. The "Door scene" one of the best ever.[/quote]
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Door scene? Did I miss something?

The one where "Out of this World" is playing...

There are so many great scenes though. That scene, the amazing fight scene, Buffy and Spike outside the police station, Buffy with Tara at the end. I could go on for ages...lol.

Oh god, I ADORED that scene. As you're well aware that I'm nowhere near pro-Spuffy but that scene was fabulous and the music was amazing.

Yes, such an amazing scene. It really did what I think BtVS does so well, a scene as subtle as it can get, but so powerful because of it.

It actually might be a group of critics, I'm not sure.

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if it was a group as opposed to one individual lording it over everybody.

Woops. Teaches me not to pay close enough attention.

For this years list there weren't any listed for #20-11 though. Only 10 chances left...

What about the other shows? What show has the most episodes on the list?

Thanks.

CWDP should definitely be higher than Normal Again, but both were great episodes.

I guess it's all about personal preference.

You horrify me.

You have to admit. It was nicely done.

Sorry hun. Can`t.

I love the song and the scene is ok, but I don't think the song suited the moment.

Interesting, it fell right in line with other memorable scenes, "Becoming ll" , "Amends" for me, though I really can't explain why. Basically I don't even really hear the music as a separate part the first time I see a scene if it really works. Of course later, whenever the music from any of them come up, it immediately brings the scene to mind.

So do you think it suited that episode or do you think it suited "Becoming" or "Amends" better?

The music in all the scenes work effectively for me at least, because they're a perfect match for what we are seeing, and in these scenes in particular, the mood. So switching around would not be possible at all.

I see. Now that you mention it, I think it would have been better for "Becoming"...